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maybe a lttle less conversation and more on the fiscal cliff. that is my "2 cents more," and that's it for tonight. thank you for joining us. have a great night. we'll sererere tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. more than 200-point swing in the stock market today, but at the end of the days of volatile session the dow jones industrial had a triple digits gain. anxious investors worldwide, however, have been selling stock on concerns about the impending peril of the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama for his part seems utterly unimpressed by market volatility and the consequences of failure to resolve the issues of tax hikes and spending cuts that go into affect the first of the year. as the markets were falling in the first hour of trading this morning, house speaker john maynard stood up and offered support to investors and leaders for the market. stocks stabilized and then began climbing on the speaker's expression of optimism that a deal is within reach. we will take all of that up and more here toight with bedford open geyser c
maybe a lttle less conversation and more on the fiscal cliff. that is my "2 cents more," and that's it for tonight. thank you for joining us. have a great night. we'll sererere tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. more than 200-point swing in the stock market today, but at the end of the days of volatile session the dow jones industrial had a triple digits gain. anxious investors worldwide, however, have been selling stock on concerns about the impending peril of the so-called...
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fiscal cliff? >> yes. obviously, we are leaving it to speaker john boehner and the house. the republican negotiating position and the president representing the democrats in the house and the senate. to make the -- to present the -- their conclusions to the rest of us to evaluate and vote on. but it has to be voted on in the house of representatives. the republican house members need to support it for it to pass. in the senate, it is not just enough for 51 democratic senators to be supportive. the rules permit the minority to have some rights -- until the rules are changed. as a result, we do have a voice. it has to be something that is acceptable to the senate republicans, as well as house republicans. >> have you seen any indication that senator harry reid wants to cut -- any spending? >> no. >> none? >> you never get him to talk about reducing spenning by a dime. it's always about adding revenue. they are not even satisfied to have more money. they have to specify where it comes from. rich peopl
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am i surprised we facing this fiscal cliff now? no, because we put it in. we created this cliff because we thought it will be so terrifying that congress would actually be shaken to reach a bipartisan agreement to reduce the debt. that's what our responsibility is and the time between now and the end of this year. >> i think congress is reflecting the nation. i think we are very divided. not in the goal, but how we get there, and i think america is too. i think that is reflected i think we now know that americans expect us to go forward, and we have no choice but to go forward. >> i think kay has made a very important point. one of the things that's troubled me about the analysis of congress is people act as if we're in a bubble and we just were self-generated. i mean, there are few people in this building that aren't here because they didn't get -- they should be doing self-criticism. it's exacerbated by one of the great inventions, creations of our humanity, which is the american constitution. at any given time america is governed by the results of three
am i surprised we facing this fiscal cliff now? no, because we put it in. we created this cliff because we thought it will be so terrifying that congress would actually be shaken to reach a bipartisan agreement to reduce the debt. that's what our responsibility is and the time between now and the end of this year. >> i think congress is reflecting the nation. i think we are very divided. not in the goal, but how we get there, and i think america is too. i think that is reflected i think...
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. >> the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. so the ceiling -- the sky's not going to fall. >> chris: senators jeff session and congressman charlie wrangle on prospects for avoiding the fiscal cliff. liz, is charley wrangle right, the sky is not falling? >> i wouldn't say charlie's not right. i think the potential damage done by going off the fiscal cliff is so significant i would hope even in this town that's very divided people could come together to avoid it. what concerns me is the whole terrain we're on is an argument about whether or not to raise taxes on upper income earners. the argument ought to be is the president willing to put forward spending proposals and cuts that are serious enough to come to an agreement. the president is pushing a fallacy which i've watched some sundays bill kristol buy into on the panel that we can solve our problem. >> chris: that was a great line. >> but no, this notion that we can solve the problem by raising taxes on the upper income earners is ill-advised. >> chris: i'm going to mr. bill
. >> the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. so the ceiling -- the sky's not going to fall. >> chris: senators jeff session and congressman charlie wrangle on prospects for avoiding the fiscal cliff. liz, is charley wrangle right, the sky is not falling? >> i wouldn't say charlie's not right. i think the potential damage done by going off the fiscal cliff is so significant i would hope even in this town that's very divided people could come together to avoid it. what concerns...
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of what people are calling the fiscal cliff. is the fiscal cliff cutting spending? the sequester? i don't think it leads to economic harm to cut spending. that's what we should be doing. the other half of the fiscal cliff is taxes will go up. i don't want them to go up. if you raise taxes on the top 1%, that's 50% of the nation's fiscal income. if you don't think raising taxes in a recession is a good idea, why would it be a good idea to raise them on anyone? >> greta: so do you think going off the fiscal cliff would necessarily be a bad thing? >> it would be a bad thing to raise taxes. it doesn't make sense to me. i don't accept that cutting spending is bad for the economy. i think cutting federal spending, which means less borrowing up here, is go for the economy, but i do think taxes going up is a bad thing for the economy. i agree with half of the equation of the fiscal cliff, but i don't agree if taxes going up is bad for the economy why would we only want half of the taxes to go up? >> greta: that's like the reverse of the
of what people are calling the fiscal cliff. is the fiscal cliff cutting spending? the sequester? i don't think it leads to economic harm to cut spending. that's what we should be doing. the other half of the fiscal cliff is taxes will go up. i don't want them to go up. if you raise taxes on the top 1%, that's 50% of the nation's fiscal income. if you don't think raising taxes in a recession is a good idea, why would it be a good idea to raise them on anyone? >> greta: so do you think...
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will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff? finishes this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but it's the family party! really jingles your bells, doesn't it? my gift to you! the capital one venture card! for any flight, any time! that's double miles you can actually e! how illinating. hat's in your wallet? let me guess, am i on the naughty list again? ho ho ho! >> we're relegated to a group of people meeting in secret, plotting some sort of scheme that they think is best for america. >> the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. so the ceiling -- the sky's not going to fall. >> chris: senators jeff session and congressman charlie wrangle on prospects for avoiding the fiscal cliff. liz, is charley wrangle right, the sky is not falling? >> i wouldn't say charlie's not right. i think the potential damage done by going off the fiscal cliff is so significant i would hope even in this
will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff? finishes this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but it's the family party! really jingles your bells, doesn't it? my gift to you! the capital one venture card! for any flight, any time! that's double miles you can actually e! how illinating. hat's in your wallet? let me guess,...
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a lot to get into this morning as we talk about the fiscal cliff. erskine bowles says he thinks democrats and republicans are serious about getting a deal done, but when you hear congressman cole walking back statements, do you think that's true? >> cole doesn't want to be a political target of the right. so he can easily say i really didn't mean that prks and to ge of the news. and probably trying to set the table for other guys. which is a signal that the right wing is still very stuck in con kreetd as you said earlier. they don't want to move. they are denying election results. but there is real ominous things i think that are starting to surface here. any talk of a mortgage deduction change would be horrendous in my opinion and it would fly in the face of everything barack obama and joe biden ran on in protecting middle class. they have to be crystal clear that that is off the table. the housing crisis started the last recession. if they go after mortgage deductions, if they put that on the table even for high end homes, that will change sales,
a lot to get into this morning as we talk about the fiscal cliff. erskine bowles says he thinks democrats and republicans are serious about getting a deal done, but when you hear congressman cole walking back statements, do you think that's true? >> cole doesn't want to be a political target of the right. so he can easily say i really didn't mean that prks and to ge of the news. and probably trying to set the table for other guys. which is a signal that the right wing is still very stuck...
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will the fiscal cliff be on the agenda? >>> and what will president obama say when he speaks live next hour at the white house? we'll be flanked by middle-class families whose wallets could be impacted if congress fails to reach a deal. ♪ [ male announcer ] are you on medicare? do you have the coverage you need? open enrollment ends friday, december 7th. so don't wait. now's the time to get on a path that could be right for you... with unitedhealthcare medicare solutions. call today to learn about the kinds of coverage we offer, including aarp medicarecomplete plans insured through unitedhealthcare. these medicare advantage plans can combine parts a and b, your hospital and doctor coverage... with part d prescription drug coverage, and extra benefits... all in one complete plan... for a $0 monthly premium. no more than what you already pay for medicare part b. unitedhealthcare doesn't stop there. we'll cover 100% of your preventive services... like an annual physical and immunizations... and you'll have the flexibility to
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cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico report that a phone call last night between boehner and the president was curt, noting it was 28 minutes long and productive. signaling the president is flexible on taxes not being s
cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi...
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fiscal cliff, yes or no? do we go over it? if so, the consequences. >> we do not come by but not for the good reasons which i have heard you analyze. very little movement on tax rates next year. very little movement on spending generally a slight decrease. lou: no movement, are using the bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire? >> no. what i'm saying is that the bush tax cuts, but for a slight modification will persist in 2013. spending reductions, which were made by the forced sequester will not be made in the amount suggested and will be only modest, and it will be a reduction in spending it will be a modest reduction in the rate of increase in spending such the we will have a $1 trillion plus deficit next year. more of the same. lou: as always. >> thank you. lou: up next to illegal immigrants wants new privileges because, i hate to tell you, it looks like pandering is contagious. imagine that. and forget susan rice. not the plot -- the biggest problem with this administration we will demonstrate to you the gaping holes in t
fiscal cliff, yes or no? do we go over it? if so, the consequences. >> we do not come by but not for the good reasons which i have heard you analyze. very little movement on tax rates next year. very little movement on spending generally a slight decrease. lou: no movement, are using the bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire? >> no. what i'm saying is that the bush tax cuts, but for a slight modification will persist in 2013. spending reductions, which were made by the forced...
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what can be done to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i'm at 187, a shout out to everybody at home. happy thanksgiving and see you guys in a few months, back in nashville. >> i'm harris from the expedition forces and here in bagram, afghanistan, like to give a shout out to my mother. happy thanksgiving, i love you mom and i wish the best of luck to everyone in savannah, georgia. i love you guys. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. hurry in this friday for great deals. like the droid razr by motorola in cranberry, free. or a white 7-inch samsung galaxy tab 2, just $99.99. this friday, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >> senator session, you're the ranking on the budget committee. and there are hurdles to g
what can be done to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i'm at 187, a shout out to everybody at home. happy thanksgiving and see you guys in a few months, back in nashville. >> i'm harris from the expedition forces and here in bagram, afghanistan, like to give a shout out to my mother. happy thanksgiving, i love you mom and i wish the best of luck to everyone in savannah, georgia. i love you guys. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at...
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on the fiscal cliff. he wants to do that over the next decade. and, this is the kind of math i like, it works o to $160 billion per year, in taxes. republicans howling about that. are they wrong to be upset? let's look at numbers. earlier this year, the president unveiled a 3.8 -- i love this. we talk about these numbers like there is nothing do it. $3.8 trillion budget. all right, he forecast a $1.3 trillion deficit. okay? so that means, if i can figure that out, he had $2.5 trillion to work with. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion, for next year, in deficit and our national debt is now over $16 trillion, and everybody knows that, i don't need to write that down. and, the president's big plan, he wants -- wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and here's how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 8$849 billion over ten years by allowing the bush tax cuts, here they go... away. on the 31st of december, this year. they'll expire for households with incomes more than $250,000, $849 billion, includes $206 billion, of higher taxes on dividends
on the fiscal cliff. he wants to do that over the next decade. and, this is the kind of math i like, it works o to $160 billion per year, in taxes. republicans howling about that. are they wrong to be upset? let's look at numbers. earlier this year, the president unveiled a 3.8 -- i love this. we talk about these numbers like there is nothing do it. $3.8 trillion budget. all right, he forecast a $1.3 trillion deficit. okay? so that means, if i can figure that out, he had $2.5 trillion to work...
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will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ >> chris: still to come, our power player of the week. >> what i learned was to love work. >> chris: she grew up on a farm in california, making enough from raising cattle to send herself to college. >> i'm really happiest when i am engaged and working and ♪ >> relegated to a group of people meeting in secret, plotting, some sort of scheme that they think is best for america. >> the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. so the ceiling, is not going to fall. >> chris: senators jeff session and congressman charlie rangel on prospects for avoiding the fiscal cliff and we're back with the panel. liz is charlie rangel right, the sky is not falling and the fiscal cliff will not happen. >> i don't want to say charlie rangel is right. look, i think the potential damage done by going off t
will they come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ >> chris: still to come, our power player of the week. >> what i learned was to love work. >> chris: she grew up on a farm in california, making enough from raising cattle to send herself to...
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hoffa, if we go off the fiscal cliff, you're prepared to do that. that would hurt a lot of your members. are your members, do you think middle class americans are prepared to go down that road and bare the brunt of a tax increase just because republicans are stubborn? >> no one wants to see that happen, but guess what? this is something that's not going away. they have done this for the last two years. they held hostage every issue from fixing the roads, the reauthorization, unemployment benefits, we can't keep letting them hold us hostage every time we want to do something that's good for the country. it would be very damaging, but i don't think it would last long because the pressure would be so strong they'll have to do the right thing. they are not going to sacrifice their future for the 2% and basically hurt the 98% of the people that would keep the basic changes that they have. >> so you're saying political russian roulette, bring it on. you think the democrats are in a solid position now and that will hold with the american people. that's int
hoffa, if we go off the fiscal cliff, you're prepared to do that. that would hurt a lot of your members. are your members, do you think middle class americans are prepared to go down that road and bare the brunt of a tax increase just because republicans are stubborn? >> no one wants to see that happen, but guess what? this is something that's not going away. they have done this for the last two years. they held hostage every issue from fixing the roads, the reauthorization, unemployment...
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even overshadowing the fiscal cliff. the markets today did not get a huge boost from the greek deal because they expected that it would happen. but they would have take an real hit had it not. bret? >> bret: amy kellogg in london. thank you. black friday shoppers got plenty of bang for the buck. that is later in the grapevine. up next, republicans try to zero in on hispanic voters. why is it that the most impressive technology often comes with a set of equally impressive instructions ? shouldn't something that's truly advanced, not need much explanation at all ? with the nokia lumia 822 on verizon, there's not much to learn because it's powered by windows... to let you do more than you ever imagined on your smartphone. exclusively with data sense-- a feature that makes the most of your plan. only on verizon. >> bret: republicans are already looking ahead to the next election. in 2014. they are trying to do something about the low numbers with hispanics. correspondent doug mckelway on the first steps this week. >> clearly
even overshadowing the fiscal cliff. the markets today did not get a huge boost from the greek deal because they expected that it would happen. but they would have take an real hit had it not. bret? >> bret: amy kellogg in london. thank you. black friday shoppers got plenty of bang for the buck. that is later in the grapevine. up next, republicans try to zero in on hispanic voters. why is it that the most impressive technology often comes with a set of equally impressive instructions ?...
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nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut proposal and the norquist pledge will no longer keep republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. which would seem to be good news for republicans. what do you make of john boehner's statement saying bad idea? >> well, first of all, i respect representative cole for saying the obvious, that there is no need to hold 98% of our middle-class families and 97% of our small businesses hostage just in order to protect the wealthiest americans. that this fiscal cliff that we are facing can be resolved very quickly if we pass a bill to extend the tax cuts for those people. i r
nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut...
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he'll ask them how the fiscal cliff could impact their lives. on tuesday he invited small business owners into the oval office to offer their ideas. >> they had one message for the president which is they need certainty. please get this deal done as soon as possible. >> reporter: but spending any time on capitol hill it's easy to see a deal forthcoming isn't coming soon. >> there's been little progress with the republicans which is a disappointment to me. >> their hard left doesn't want to change anything ever. they think any dollar spent or any commitment made by the federal government on any program at any time ought to be there in perpetuity. >> we are not going to accept an unfair deal that will hurt middle class today and protect the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: the president and congressional leaders have no talks scheduled for this week. now the president's meeting today with leaders from goldman sachs and comcast and yahoo! among others on friday he's hitting the road going to a toy factory in pennsylvania. >> susan mcginnis in was
he'll ask them how the fiscal cliff could impact their lives. on tuesday he invited small business owners into the oval office to offer their ideas. >> they had one message for the president which is they need certainty. please get this deal done as soon as possible. >> reporter: but spending any time on capitol hill it's easy to see a deal forthcoming isn't coming soon. >> there's been little progress with the republicans which is a disappointment to me. >> their hard...
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congress and the president have just 40 days to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. when the ball drops on new year's eve, tax hikes and severe spending cuts will kick in automatically unless a deal is reached. wyatt andrews spoke with two men who say they know how it should be done, if only washington would listen. >> reporter: two years ago, the fiscal commission chaired by democrat erskine bowles and former republican senator alan simpson proposed every basic element of the fiscal cliff solution being discussed now. their plan was a mixture of higher taxes, lower spending and the reform of medicare and social security. both men told us sacrifice has to come from everyone. >> all of us have to have some skin in the game to get it done. >> if you want something, pay for it. it's a sick idea, but it is an interesting idea. >> reporter: their biggest idea was to increase revenue by combining both the president's demand for higher taxes on the rich and the republican proposal to get rid of tax loopholes. bowles/simpson would eliminate almost every tax deduction for ind
congress and the president have just 40 days to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. when the ball drops on new year's eve, tax hikes and severe spending cuts will kick in automatically unless a deal is reached. wyatt andrews spoke with two men who say they know how it should be done, if only washington would listen. >> reporter: two years ago, the fiscal commission chaired by democrat erskine bowles and former republican senator alan simpson proposed every basic element of the fiscal cliff...
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among the things he is discussing today, the fiscal cliff. we go over that at the end of the year when the tax cuts expire and spending cuts go into place. he talks about susan rice, the ambassador to the united nations who spoke after the attack in benghazi. >> with my full cabinet for the first time since the election took place, and the primary purpose is to say thank you because everyone here in their respective agencies has done a remarkable job on behalf of the american people across the board on a wide range of issues. they have always prioritized thousand make sure we have a strong middle class and how we grow our economy and put people back to work and how we keep the american people safe and continue to extend our influence and our ideals around the world. i could not have a better collection of people. any of whom have stayed here throughout my first term. we have had little turnover as any president during the course of a first term and the reason is because everyone has done such a remarkable job. so my main purpose is to say tha
among the things he is discussing today, the fiscal cliff. we go over that at the end of the year when the tax cuts expire and spending cuts go into place. he talks about susan rice, the ambassador to the united nations who spoke after the attack in benghazi. >> with my full cabinet for the first time since the election took place, and the primary purpose is to say thank you because everyone here in their respective agencies has done a remarkable job on behalf of the american people...
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in the short term, the very short term, i think actually some of the hype around the fiscal cliff is a little overblown, particularly because the first couple of days or week or so after we go over the fiscal cliff we won't see all that many impacts. all these tax and spending impacts take months to go into effect. it doesn't impact the economy until people start paying taxes, which could be several months down the line for most americans. on the spending side as well, spending is built into the cake so again you'd be looking at stuff that would be impacting the out months. for the first couple of months, no real specific impact. the big thing to worry about is whether wall street freaks out or not about the fact that we've gone over the fiscal cliff. if they do freak out, that could have an impact and cause a recession because of the wall street impact. >> and the premise of your analysis there is that we're looking at late deal or early deal. nobody really thinks that there will never be a deal. and so what you're saying, what, if it was three weeks out or late january or after the
in the short term, the very short term, i think actually some of the hype around the fiscal cliff is a little overblown, particularly because the first couple of days or week or so after we go over the fiscal cliff we won't see all that many impacts. all these tax and spending impacts take months to go into effect. it doesn't impact the economy until people start paying taxes, which could be several months down the line for most americans. on the spending side as well, spending is built into...
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there's no agreement on the fiscal cliff thing. the president says those republicans, you people, you're just defending your millionaire pals, you're prepared to push us into a recession. who do you think gets the political blame at that point? >> sean: cut spending first. >> yes. >> sean: they won't do it. >> you'll never play politics? >> sean: republicans, i don't hear them advocating for smaller government and cutting spending. >> but you are asking them to negotiate in public when they actually should just be quiet. >> sean: in public, they're capitulating, saying they're giving in -- >> i think that's overriding, and -- overreading it, and pledges don't mean anything, and i like how stuart says "iota." >> sean: coming up, republican senators walk with more questions than answers after their meeting today with ambassador susan rice. coming up, the benghazi cover-up continues to unravel. we'll check in with liz cheney with the very latest. >> i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia, and
there's no agreement on the fiscal cliff thing. the president says those republicans, you people, you're just defending your millionaire pals, you're prepared to push us into a recession. who do you think gets the political blame at that point? >> sean: cut spending first. >> yes. >> sean: they won't do it. >> you'll never play politics? >> sean: republicans, i don't hear them advocating for smaller government and cutting spending. >> but you are asking them...
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>>> plus, are we seeing the first signs of republicans giving ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's view, extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris kearns goodwin joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how he did it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> how's this for irony? mitt romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out romney shared a popular vote of this country has fallen to, you guessed it, 47.4%. as expected to fa
>>> plus, are we seeing the first signs of republicans giving ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's view, extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris kearns goodwin joins us. >>>...
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the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the
the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being...
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he has ceos, lots of fiscal cliff stuff. joy's christmas shopping and was looking at best buy for the latest smartphone. you wanna see if walmart has the same phone, for less? let's see! samsung galaxy s3 --- you could save over $50. no way! and -- you get a $100 gift card. are you serious?! yes! see for yourself how much you can save on the smartphones you want for christmas. walmart. but when i was in an accident... see for yourself how much you can save on the smartphones i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> i learned the value of a dollar working in my dad's store and running my own small business. i know we can pay down the debt while protecting social security and medicare. >> we need firm footing by reforming our tax cod
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>> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead story -- one of the top stories on the front page of the "wall street journal" suggesting the president is flexible on the tax hikes, that sounds like a deal might get done. you see a gain of 50 or 60 points. gdp up 2.7% from 2%. there was concerning things when you dig into the numbers, it's all fiscal cliff all the time here, chuck. >> oh, hopefully, as you guys say, it will all -- people will rise above, right, becky? >> that's right. >> i know. i see the button. up next, we're taking a deep dive into the u.s. relationship with afgha
>> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead...
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you have to assume that would include a robust discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strateg
you have to assume that would include a robust discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this...
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optimism about solving the fiscal cliff sends the dow up 107 points. the s&p rises 11 and the nasdaq adds 24 point. >>> green mountain coffee, shares surged more than 27% with upbeat futures report. >>> and the markets reacted to the beige book showing gains in consumer spending and home sales, which helped boost the economy recently. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." u.s. congressman tom cole of oklahoma signaled republicans should accept president obama's tax offer. earlier today the president made note of it. let's listen. >> i'm glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so, if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. >> congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. give us your thinking about why it's important, i know politically it makes sense to many people, middle class, people ma
optimism about solving the fiscal cliff sends the dow up 107 points. the s&p rises 11 and the nasdaq adds 24 point. >>> green mountain coffee, shares surged more than 27% with upbeat futures report. >>> and the markets reacted to the beige book showing gains in consumer spending and home sales, which helped boost the economy recently. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." u.s....
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. >> what fiscal cliff, right now we're up by 12% from our 12 month low. in terms of a month long average that is pretty good, investors are not as frightened as they were some days ago regarding possibility of higher taxes, for capital gains and dividend. lou: they are still in prospect, all of it is. we have folks introducing bills to defer the whole thing for a year now. and the president is making nice, he is talking with ceos, seeming leally almost every othr day. >> market thinks we have a kinder and gently barack obama, who knows that might be correct. but who knows, business sales show no signs of improving sig 1/2 cannily, we'll issue watching what happenshis week into start of the holiday shopping scene very closely. lou: at wha point do we just acknowledge we're sort of you know bumbling along, economically, that the markets are outperforming the economy. and if we look at this right now, there is a project here that from index of leading economic an kate or to market's behavior that says we have good things in store here 6 months down the road.
. >> what fiscal cliff, right now we're up by 12% from our 12 month low. in terms of a month long average that is pretty good, investors are not as frightened as they were some days ago regarding possibility of higher taxes, for capital gains and dividend. lou: they are still in prospect, all of it is. we have folks introducing bills to defer the whole thing for a year now. and the president is making nice, he is talking with ceos, seeming leally almost every othr day. >> market...
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barack obama bringing glad tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> my hope is to get this done before christmas. i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver those presents. no smile from either one of them. but investors didn't care, they're excited about the present, the dow gained more than a full percent throughout the day. will we have a true christmas miracle? courtesy of those two. oh, let's hope that they don't wear those hats. i spoke this evening with republican senator john cornyn of texas, he's the republican whip and member of the finance committee, and i asked him what has he actually done to help get this deal done, not the night before, but before christmas. >> we have said that revenue, is something that the president said he needs, we have made the point t
barack obama bringing glad tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> my hope is to get this done before christmas. i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver...
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walmart. ♪ >>> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. the white house releases a new report on christmas shopping and budget negotiations. it's monday, november 26th, and this is "now." alex wagner will be back tomorrow. joining me today from politico, ben white, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine, ronna, jody can tor of "the new york times" and the good professor himself, michael eric dyson. after a record-setting holiday weekend, consumers are expected to spend a lot of cash on what retailers call cyber monday. americans will spend $1.5 billion online today, a 20% bump from lastea
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we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still haven't recognized the new reality. dan, you may be right. i don't know. i guess we'll see. if republicans do agree to raise taxes, do you think that democrats will agree to any health care entitlement reform? which is the harder sell? >> no, i don't think so. that's why i'm so pessimistic or actually so optimistic about going over this fiscal cliff. usually when i threaten to write about something every day until it is resolved, it gets resolved quickly. we'll see in this case. >> that's power. >> the election kind of ratified the stance. which is the bush tax cuts should expire for those making over a cer
we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still...
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president obama taking his fiscal cliff proposals to the campaign trail. stay tuned. we will find out. the negotiating table is next. before copd... i took my son fishing every yr. we had a greaspot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps snificantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing etter. and that means...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronic bnchitis and emphyse. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbirt may increase yourisk of lung infections, osteoporosis, d some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. with copd, i thought i'd miss our family tradition. now symbicort significantly improves my lung function, starting within 5 minutes. and that makes a difference in my breathing. today, we're ready for whatever swims our way. ask your doctor about sym
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has been a lot of work on the fiscal cliff. we have talked about medicare savings that can improve and strengthen the program and address rising national health expenditures. we will have more to say on the issue of taxes. we are ecstatic to have senator durbin here today, who has played a fundamental role over the last several years. he has been part of every negotiation that has taken place. he is still an optimist. that is a sign of progress. he has had a long history of being a champion and advocate for the middle class. he has carried that advocacy in the budget negotiations. he was part of the supercommittee, this fiscal, the gang of eight, the gang of six -- almost every gang that has been involved in these issues. he has been a fighter for what is right and for having a plan that stands true to the values of the american people and the people who voted and waited in line for hours on end to vote -- people who want a fair shake out of washington. as a champion of that fair shake, i am excited to have senator durbin. >> n
has been a lot of work on the fiscal cliff. we have talked about medicare savings that can improve and strengthen the program and address rising national health expenditures. we will have more to say on the issue of taxes. we are ecstatic to have senator durbin here today, who has played a fundamental role over the last several years. he has been part of every negotiation that has taken place. he is still an optimist. that is a sign of progress. he has had a long history of being a champion and...
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i'm ready to sign it. >> politico calls it the fiscal cliff roadshow. the president going to middle class americans about avoiding the cliff. 33 days and counting. and join our conversation on twitter. [ female announcer ] you can make macaroni & cheese without freshly-made pasta. you could also cut corners by making it without 100% real cheddar cheese. but then...it wouldn't be stouffer's mac & cheese. just one of over 70 satisfying recipes for one from stouffer's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 year
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we are four weeks away from going over that fiscal cliff. so far republicans are sticking to their guns. the white house is stepping up negotiations. tim geithner is set to meet top leaders to look closer at the numbers. mike em an mule has more from capitol hill. >> there's a great discussion about raising taxes. many talk about entitlement reform but with the nation's debt at 16 trillion and counting we asked lawmakers what they are willing to cut to get a deal. >> republicans offered a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff through significant spending cuts. >> we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied serious spending cuts to avert the crisis. >> the bipartisan bowl deficit plan had savings worth pursuing. >> they identified $1.1 trillion tax expenditures, benefits, deductions, credits and the like that could be cut as part of a grand bargain. i think we ought to look at that flat ten the code simplify it. >> harry reid told reporters yesterday he would like to get credit for what congress has previously cut. >> we have already don
we are four weeks away from going over that fiscal cliff. so far republicans are sticking to their guns. the white house is stepping up negotiations. tim geithner is set to meet top leaders to look closer at the numbers. mike em an mule has more from capitol hill. >> there's a great discussion about raising taxes. many talk about entitlement reform but with the nation's debt at 16 trillion and counting we asked lawmakers what they are willing to cut to get a deal. >> republicans...
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it's the fiscal cliff. just in the last hour, at his first cabinet meeting since re-election, the president expressed the urgent need for a deal, one that he wants to see extend tax cuts for the middle class while letting them expire for the highest earners. >> there is no reason why taxes on middle class families should go up. it would be bad for the economy. it would be bad for those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and a new survey shows the president has the public on board in a new washington post po
it's the fiscal cliff. just in the last hour, at his first cabinet meeting since re-election, the president expressed the urgent need for a deal, one that he wants to see extend tax cuts for the middle class while letting them expire for the highest earners. >> there is no reason why taxes on middle class families should go up. it would be bad for the economy. it would be bad for those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get...